pro vsechny anglictinare uvadim zajimave pohledy svetovych asociaci na vysi startovneho na letosnim mistrovstvi sveta v Holandsku.
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Dear Friends,
I have followed in the past weeks the web-debate about entry fees for WC
2003 and it seems to me that it arrived to a dead point: the Dutch
organisation will not step back from the 260 Euros all inclusive, in spite
of the fact that CIV expressed all its disappoint in last Paris Meeting,
and also in spite of the fact that CIV had decided in 2001 Paris Meetingthat
entry fees for WC should not overpass 100 Euros. Now, I would like to know
what national federations are thinking to do about…
Here in Italy there is a lot of discontent, racers did not like such an
increase from the traditional 100 Euros to 260 Euros, they did not like the
idea of adding to the entry fee the cost of food and whatever else. Here
racers think that anyone should feel free to decide each evening if they
want to dine all together at the big tent, or cheek to cheek to their
individual tent or even dine in the best restaurant in town. And the same
kind of observations could be done about the statutory camping accomodation!
Then, here some racers are thinking about staying at home instead of going
to Stavoren, and this would be a pity, it would lessen the number of
participants to the Worlds and, if other teams from other countries should
do the same, it would lessen the meaning itself of 2003 Worlds.
Well, I would like to hear from all of you if this kind of feeling is
affecting only Italian teams: should the answer be yes, Italian AsVaurien
will do its best to encourage and even economically help all the ranked
teams to come to Stavoren. But if you know that the same temptation of
staying at home is affecting some of your teams, I think we should try all
together to do something in order to avoid the risk of a low participation
to these Worlds: a risk that the whole Vaurien class cannot afford!
Best regards
Maurizio Raffaelli (President of AsVaurien Italia)
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Dear Maurizio, dear friends.
I had, during the last winter meeting of the CIV, requested the modification
of the entry fee for the WC 2003.
I note that no answer would have been made if I had not put the question again.
No effort was accomplished.
I find abnormal that the organizers conceive this demonstration in a logic of benefit.
I thus inform you that, at the present time, no French crew will take part
in the WC 2003 in Stavoren. I hope that this situation will change,
but I am not optimistic.
Sincerely with all.
Jean Jacques GIRARD.
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Dear Dieter Daum,
I officially write on behalf of the whole AsVaurien Italia to you, President
of Comité International du Vaurien. At present times it seems that nothing
can be done to change 2003 WC fees: the Dutch organisers do not even reply
to the complaints of many national associations, thus showing to have little
respect for the community they belong to; the majority of national
associations, although unsatisfied of things, hesitate to declare a war
which could only drive the class to a maximum of self damage. Well, the
politics of fait accomplě proves to be everywhere the winning one!
In spite of that, we do not give up to our right of protesting, even in
presence of the silence of the international class authority. We protest
because the 2003 WC organisers disattended:
– the 2002 Paris Meeting invitation to revise admission fees, particularly
Article 14 of Vaurien Class Championship Rules;
– the 2001 Paris Meeting decision of not allowing fees exceeding 100 Euro.
We protest in order to avoid a repetition, in the future, of such a kind of
unilateral behaviour: all that is happening this year should not became a
precedent for next world championships.
We protest because we trust.
Kind regards
(Maurizio Raffaelli)
President of AsVaurien Italia
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Hello
In the past 10 June we have our general assembly of AsVaurien
Portugal, and all the sailors voted uanimously a formal protest
against the inscription fees of the WC 2003. I remenber yhat last
year, in Póvoa, we made an entry of 100 Euros, we give a nice social
program with a dinner in the casino and so. All the Portuguese team
just want to be received exactly in the same conditions we give to
everywhere (note that Póvoa is also an international Marina . ..), so
, for Portugal the fair price is 100 euros the inscription. Any money
out of this would be considered a robery…
with best regards
Fernando Cruz
President AsVaurien Portugal
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Dear Splash, Vaurien, Flash sailors and friends,
The organization likes to offer an all-in event with the intention,
next to superb racing, to create an environment for socializing
amongst all sailors. However a few countries have indicated that they
like to have an entry fee with a less comprehensive package. These are
mainly Vaurien crews that like to combine the Worlds with a vacation
with their family and children. In order to accommodate these families
the Organization Committee Worlds2003 has decided to offer an
alternative package.
Although it is not in line with the philosophy of the event, the Organization
Committee Worlds2003 will allow all sailors to choose between the
all-in package and the alternative.
Hereby the overview of the two possible packages;
The all-in package(standard):
– 1 practice race.
– 5 race days.
– 7 days breakfast, lunch packs (on race days distributed on the water) and evening meals.
– Free camping on the harbour.
– Use of the harbour facilities.
– Social evening program.
– Splashing opening- and price giving ceremony (including diner).
– Rescue in line with the (inter-)national guidelines.
This all for the original entry fee of just 190,- Euro for the Splash/Flash
and 290,- Euro for the Vaurien.
The alternative package:
– 1 practice race.
– 5 race days.
– Free camping on the harbour.
– Use of the harbour facilities.
– Social evening program.
– Splashing opening- and price giving ceremony (including diner).
– Rescue in line with the (inter-)national guidelines.
So without:
– 7 days breakfast, lunch packs and evening meals.
The alternative entry fee is 145,- Euro for the Splash/Flash and 200,-
Euro for the Vaurien.
A crew or sailor who wants to choose the alternative package has to
sign in before the 22nd of June with the secretariat of the
Organization Committee Worlds2003 clearly stating alternative
package.
After this date it is only possible to make use of the standard all-in
package. Changing package during the event is not possible.
Competitors, who already have signed in and like to change to the alternative
package, have to inform the secretariat of the Organization Committee
Worlds2003 together with name, class and sail number before the 22nd
of June.
It has been the philosophy of the Organization Committee Worlds2003
that it has to be a great event for more than the 600 (!) sailors,
with the possibilities for a lot of social contacts between the
participants during the races and the social events. The event is also
used to promote the non-olympic sailing in the Splash, Vaurien and
Flash. Therefore the event is concentrated as much as possible at one
site and to have as many as possible joint activities, including
meals. For that reason we hope that all the competitors will choose
the standard all-in package.
For the completeness we also refer to the news item on the website
about the catering-offer for coaches, parents and friends.
We are looking forward to a Worlds 2003 with excellent races and lots
of fun.
Kind regards,
Camiel P. Brands Ad Alberts
Chairman of the organizing Chairman of the organizing
committee Vaurien Class committee Splash/Flash Class
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Hello Vaurien-World,
I think most of you got the following lines from Camiel. I hope, you accept
his work trying to find a compromise between his first idea to offer
an „all-inclusive“ World Championship and the minimum he was
able to offer. I personally accept, that it is not a „low
cost“ World Championship, but agree, that Camiel tried his best.
Please inform him until 22nd of June. about your decision, number of participants
all-inclusive, number of participants reduced offer! He needs this for
the final contract with the catering service. We, the Vaurien-Class,
need an event with a maximum number of participants, so use the chance
to sign-on additional teams, there are open more than 6 places, so –
from my point of view I give an additional place in every group for
every country without request, if you need more than this, contact me
again!
Have a good time and see us in Stavoren
Dieter Daum
President CIV
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Hello Dieter
Once again I think is too much for a entry fee and is not the correct way
to improve the number of participants. In Portugal, our federation just
give 200 euros for the 2 first portuguese teams… As you see is a little
bit… just twice we pay in Portugal, last year in Póvoa… and I
think inflation in Holland is not 100%… I still disagree absolutely with
this exorbitant cost.
Regards
Fernando Cruz
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Dear Dieter,
I found in the dictionary that also English language knows the
following expression: „None so deaf as those who won’t
hear“, so I am sure that everybody all over Vaurien world will
understand it. Who are the deaf here?
What is happening about entry fees of WC 2003 is becoming slightly offensive,
the nations that argued against the amount and the philosophy of those
fees are now feeling teased. What we asked for is the possibility of
having, first of all, an international sport event and it sounds
strange that the Dutch Organisation proudly mentions things like „rescue
in line with international guidelines“ or „use of the Marina
facilities“ as part of the proposed packages: what do they mean, toilets,
hot showers? Whoever organises World Championships should take for
granted that these things must be guaranteed simply because they must
be guaranteed, regardless the amount of the entry fees. It is not a question
of larger or narrower package, we are dealing with something different
from a Club Med Week. Anyway, Fernando Cruz opportunely stressed that
Portugueses last year succeeded in ensuring good opportunities of
social life with 100 Euros only! Incidentally, why WC 2003 fees are
still rising? They were 270 Euros (all inclusive) until a couple of
weeks ago, now they grew to 290… when will they stabilise at the
stock exchange?
In these conditions AsVaurien Italia may only reiterate his protest to
CIV Executive Board, adding some new disappointment for how things
have been managed from December 2002 Paris Meeting on. We all remember
a clear majority of oppositions to the Dutch philosophy of entry fees,
but… is perhaps CIV, like many other big international
organisations, affected by the United Nations syndrome?
Best regards
Maurizio Raffaelli
(President of AsVaurien Italia)
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Dear Dieter, Dear Vaurien World
Unfortunately it was not possible for me to be at the meeting in Paris
last December, so I can not comment on what has been discussed, agreed
and not kept by the Dutch organisation in terms of entry fee of WC
2003 – and the definition of such an entry fee.
Reading all the e-mail ‚war‘ between the ‚Southern Regions‘ and the
CIV I am wondering myself on what we are discussing. Is it really true
that we risk the name of the communitee just because of 170 to 190
Euro for two people for a 10 days event in the year of 2003 where the
average hotel room in Milan, Paris, even in Lissabon is 250 a night? I
do not hope so. Are there other reasons behind this behaviour? I
really do not hope so either.
What we decided:
If there are certain Swiss teams who can not afford the amount of 290 Euro,
the Swis Vaurien sailors decided to support those Swiss Teams out of
the AsVaurien Suisse cash, if there are any.
What we would support:
If there would be any AsVaurien whithin the community that cannot
afford to support some teams by themselves, and it would do a request
for support to the CIV we decided to support such an solidarity extra paiment
to CIV for such an AsVaurien, just to assure the best level of sailing
and not the best level of commercial wealth attending the WC2003. We
would also support if requested by the majority of As Vauriens
Organizations that the CIV must have the right to do a controlling of
the final financial statements of the organizers, because we would not
support under the today’s actual WC rules to make a profit event out
of a Vaurien WC. In addition we call the CIV to do all nescessary to
avoid such a discussion in future and work out the nescessary
reforms.
What we can not support at all:
In the feeling at least of the Swiss Vaurien sailors, all this protest
is not qualified at all and must be understood as an affron to the
Dutch organisatior. We still must accept that certain things are done differently
in different countries – even if they have meanwile the same currency.
What we have to respect:
I think also in the EU we should accept that there are different proceedures
and expected level of organization to get the nescessary approvals for
the execution of such an event. For an event of this size it is a must
that the organizer is having an extra infrastructure ready – from
lavatory to first aid at least. Normaly no local club is having such a
huge infrastructure as standard – at least in Switzerland (where no EU
subventions are spoken to build ports…) That this has to be covered
somehow either by sponsors or the participants is more than understandable.
We must accept that it might be a slight difference to organize a WC
in Holland compared to Portugal in one but also the other point. If we
can not accept this we probably cannot expect a variance of countries
still being able to organize such an event for us.
Frankly said, Switzerland was informally asked 2 years ago by the CIV for
organizing a future WC. Believe me, I do not feel enthusiastic about taking
the responsibility anytime in the future on the execution of such an
event if I know what my local government, WWF, Nature protection, local
citizens, Sponsors … are expecting me to provide before or during
such an event. And all the cost this means which have to be covered
somehow, if I feel this little respect and active support from sailors
travelling from all over the world, equiped with best material, officials
and supporter – all what it needs to be successful – but not willing
to pay what they cause. There those are just covering themselves behind
some regulations of an Association that is not able to agree on the
nescessary reforms in order to stay competitive as a class – in one or
the other direction. I am Swiss, believe me I know what I am talking about…
Switzerland will send 3-4 Teams to the WC.
All teams will take the all-inclusive offer.
We still hope to have a great WC 2003 in Holland and we want to thank the
Organisation and all the helping hands in advance.
See you in Holland !!
kind regards,
Marc Etter
President AsVaurien Suisse
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Uhm, I am afraid that Marc Etter, not present in Paris last December
(as he acknowledges at the beginning of the letter, but forgets a few
lines after), did not understand the basics of this discussion. And
the basics is that Dutch organisators insisted in obliging everyone to
accept an all-inclusive formula, in spite of the clear opposition of
CIV in Paris. This and only this is the argument. As I wrote to
Camiel, if I come to Stavoren I will choose the all-inclusive formula
because I frankly find it very convenient, nevertheless I will
continue to protest because the right of choosing a simple enrolling
fee has been denied and because a formal invitation of CIV has been
rejected. I do not know if this habit of distinguishing between rights
and conveniences springs from a southern attitude, up to now I thought
it came from english xvii century philosophy. What instead I find
overtuned (surely beyond Marc Etter’s intentions) is that Swiss
AsVaurien proposes itself as a philantropic society aiming to recover
from eventual poverty its southern cousins. On the contrary, I agree
on the necessity of reforms in order to make the class more
competitive: ideas are welcome, but I don’t think that they will come
from refusing the rule of sharing decisions and responsabilities
within our international institution: the CIV.
Best regards
Maurizio Raffaelli
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Dear friends, I understand the most your arguments but not all of
them. So my request is now, to stop all discussions, they dont give
any new informations.
You have the chance to change our World Championship Rules in the meeting
in Stavoren. Maybe it was my mistake to accept the
Article 14
Enrolment Fees
In theory, there is no enrolment fee for the World Championship. However,
acontribution to expenses may be requested providing the amount per
boat is approved by the CIV when the candidature is submitted. It shall
be the organisers‘ discretion to award prizes to the competitors.
but in the old rules, we had the same text.
So, finally, come to Stavoren with the best crew to show the other classes
the idea of Vaurien sailing and prepare a better article 14 for our
meeting!
Regards
Dieter
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